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Helen Castor's book is cited when explaining how Joan was exceptional among female visionaries. The host quotes Castor about how previous female visionaries had spiritual advisors to vouch for them, unlike Joan who appeared alone wanting to lead troops into battle.

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Marina Warner's book is referenced when discussing Joan's extraordinary charisma and ability to make people believe incredible things. The host quotes Warner describing Joan as having 'an astonishing ability to compel credence.'